{"id":1726,"date":"2011-04-17T09:12:31","date_gmt":"2011-04-17T09:12:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/?p=1726"},"modified":"2011-04-17T09:12:31","modified_gmt":"2011-04-17T09:12:31","slug":"au-nom-dune-doctrine-de-la-liberte-et-de-lautonomie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/?p=1726","title":{"rendered":"&gt;Au nom d&#039;une \u00ab doctrine de la libert\u00e9 et de l&#039;autonomie \u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center; \"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/20091128-110706.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1770\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/20091128-110706.jpeg\" title=\"20091128-110706\" width=\"320\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 12.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px; \"><strong>En tant que psychologue, notre travail aupr&egrave;s des patients n&eacute;cessite du temps<\/strong>, le temps de la relation, qui se construit dans des moments qui ne se d&eacute;cr&egrave;tent pas par un protocole ni sur ordonnance.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><strong>Ce temps de la rencontre se nourrit de surprises, d&#39;inattendu, d&#39;impr&eacute;vu<\/strong>.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><strong>Il fait la part belle &agrave; la cr&eacute;ativit&eacute; de chacun<\/strong>, si n&eacute;cessaire aux soins.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Ce temps se nourrit aussi des &eacute;changes entre les diff&eacute;rents professionnels et de leurs regards crois&eacute;s sur les difficult&eacute;s qui ont amen&eacute;es des personnes &agrave; &ecirc;tre hospitalis&eacute;es en service de psychiatrie.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">La loi vot&eacute;e le 15 mars &agrave; l&#39;Assembl&eacute;e nationale impose &agrave; l&#39;entr&eacute;e du patient &agrave; l&#39;h&ocirc;pital, une p&eacute;riode d&#39;&eacute;valuation de 72h. La maladie psychique se voit ainsi trait&eacute;e au mieux comme un &eacute;tat grippal, au pire comme un acte d&eacute;lictueux.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><strong>Il n&#39;y a pas de place pour des soignants dans un tel dispositif<\/strong> car ce n&#39;est plus un temps d&#39;accueil du patient qui est institu&eacute; mais un temps d&#39;observation,&nbsp;comme le pr&eacute;cise la loi.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><strong>Nous ne sommes pas des entomologistes,<\/strong> observer, &eacute;valuer, &eacute;pingler, quelle place pour les soignants dans ce temps contraint et fig&eacute; de 72h, cens&eacute; apporter une r&eacute;ponse rapide &agrave; &laquo;&nbsp;la crise&nbsp;&raquo;&nbsp;?<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Dans un article r&eacute;cent intitul&eacute;, &laquo;&nbsp;Ne refusons pas la loi sur la psychiatrie&nbsp;&raquo;, des psychiatres affirment que c&#39;est au nom d&#39;une &laquo;&nbsp;doctrine de la libert&eacute; et de l&#39;autonomie&nbsp;&raquo; que le soin sans consentement doit &ecirc;tre appliqu&eacute; aux patients.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Selon les auteurs de cet article, il s&#39;agit de lutter contre la maladie et pour la norme.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><strong>Lutter contre la maladie, c&#39;est lutter contre les patients<\/strong>, alors que nous travaillons justement avec la maladie mais aussi et surtout contre la norme qui &eacute;crase le rapport singulier que chacun entretient avec ce qui le tourmente.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">La loi impose un protocole de soin fix&eacute; par d&eacute;cret en Conseil d&#39;Etat. Ce protocole est cens&eacute; garantir la libert&eacute; des patients qui auront la chance, selon ses promoteurs, de vivre chez eux &agrave; la condition de se conformer au protocole.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Curieuse conception de la libert&eacute; et de l&#39;autonomie&nbsp;!<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Curieuse conception du consentement qui se r&eacute;sume &agrave; un acte d&#39;ob&eacute;issance.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Curieuse conception des &eacute;quipes charg&eacute;es de prendre soin des patients&hellip;<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Anonymes et interchangeables, elles n&#39;auront plus alors vocation &agrave; &ecirc;tre en relation avec une autre personne mais seulement &agrave; lui demander des comptes.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pour les auteurs de l&#39;article, il faut d&eacute;fendre cette loi car elle existe, m&ecirc;me si pr&eacute;cisent-t-ils, nous ne saurons vraiment si cette loi &eacute;tait bonne ou mauvaise qu&#39;&agrave; l&#39;usage.<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><strong>Nous refusons cette loi car nous refusons que les patients soient des cobayes<\/strong>,&nbsp;<\/span><\/font><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; \">nous refusons que les soignants soient les otages des protocoles,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">nous refusons cette loi car avec nos patients, nous d&eacute;sirons peindre, &eacute;crire, chanter, cr&eacute;er, inventer,<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Soigner quoi&nbsp;!<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323; min-height: 18.0px\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #232323\"><font class=\"Apple-style-span\" face=\"arial, helvetica, sans-serif\" size=\"4\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><strong>Marie Cathelineau<\/strong><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En tant que psychologue, notre travail aupr&egrave;s des patients n&eacute;cessite du temps, le temps de la relation, qui se construit dans des moments qui ne se d&eacute;cr&egrave;tent pas par un protocole ni sur ordonnance. Ce temps de la rencontre se nourrit de surprises, d&#39;inattendu, d&#39;impr&eacute;vu. Il fait la part belle &agrave; la cr&eacute;ativit&eacute; de chacun, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/?p=1726\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture de <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&gt;Au nom d&#039;une \u00ab doctrine de la libert\u00e9 et de l&#039;autonomie \u00bb<\/span>  <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1726","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-analyses-et-pratiques-professionnelles"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1726","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1726"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1726\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1726"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1726"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1726"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}