{"id":2151,"date":"2011-08-10T12:50:52","date_gmt":"2011-08-10T12:50:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/?p=2151"},"modified":"2011-08-10T12:50:52","modified_gmt":"2011-08-10T12:50:52","slug":"lettre-au-directeur-de-lepsm-de-la-marne-du-dr-p-chelma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/?p=2151","title":{"rendered":"&gt;Lettre au directeur de l&#039;EPSM de la Marne du Dr P.Chelma"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px\/normal 'Lucida Grande'; text-align: center; \"><a href=\"http:\/\/collectimp.cluster011.ovh.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/resistances1.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2153\" height=\"240\" src=\"http:\/\/collectimp.cluster011.ovh.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/resistances1.jpeg\" title=\"resistances\" width=\"320\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px\/normal 'Lucida Grande'; \">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px\/normal 'Lucida Grande'; \"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>Centre de Jour Antonin Artaud &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/b>Reims, le mercredi 10 ao&ucirc;t 2011<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-indent: 35.4px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>&nbsp;40, rue de Talleyrand<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 35.4px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 51100 REIMS&nbsp;<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 63.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 35.4px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 35.4px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>T&eacute;l.&nbsp;: 03.26.40.01.23&nbsp;<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 35.4px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>Fax&nbsp;: 03.26.77.93.14&nbsp;<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><b>Monsieur le Directeur&nbsp; de l&rsquo;EPSM de la Marne&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><b>Copies :&nbsp;<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 247.8px; text-indent: 22.2px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"font: 11.0px Verdana; letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>&#8211; <\/b><\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>Madame Caroline BOUTILLIER<\/b>&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px\/normal 'Lucida Grande'; \"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>Directeur Adjoint en charge des Affaires&nbsp;G&eacute;n&eacute;rales,&nbsp;<\/b><\/span><b>du secteur&nbsp;M&eacute;dico-social et de la Communication<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 270.0px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 270.0px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>&#8211; Madame KREMER<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 270.0px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>Directeur&nbsp; adjoint en charge des services <\/b><\/span><span style=\"font: 11.0px 'Times New Roman'; letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b><i>&nbsp; <\/i><\/b><\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>&eacute;conomiques, informatiques techniques,&nbsp; et logistiques.<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 270.0px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><b>&#8211; Madame Patricia ROBERT<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px 'Times New Roman'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>&nbsp;&nbsp; <span class=\"Apple-tab-span\" style=\"white-space:pre\"> <\/span>Directeur des Soins<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 270.0px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>&#8211; Monsieur le Dr A.Rigaud,pr&eacute;sident de la CME<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 279.0px; text-indent: -9.0px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><b>&#8211; Monsieur le Docteur E. Wargny, vice-pr&eacute;sident &nbsp; &nbsp; de la CME<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 279.0px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 13.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><em><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">Pi&egrave;ce-jointe&nbsp;: la newsletter du groupe des 39&nbsp;<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><strong><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">Monsieur le directeur,<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><strong><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">Suite &agrave; la mise en place au 1<\/span><span style=\"font: 8.0px 'Lucida Grande'; letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><sup>er<\/sup><\/span><\/strong><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><strong> ao&ucirc;t 2011 de la nouvelle loi psychiatrique<\/strong>, et comme je vous en avais inform&eacute; oralement et par mail, l&rsquo;&eacute;quipe m&eacute;dicale du service 51ZR4 a pris un certain nombre de dispositions&nbsp;:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">1 &ndash; lever le plus possible de mesure de&nbsp;&laquo;&nbsp;soins sans consentement&nbsp;&raquo; avant le 15<\/span><span style=\"font: 8.0px 'Lucida Grande'; letter-spacing: 0.0px\"><sup>&egrave;me<\/sup><\/span><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\"> jour sauf si ces mesures s&rsquo;av&eacute;raient indispensables.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">2 &ndash; Comme chacun le sait la plupart des HDT &eacute;taient justifi&eacute;es par le besoin d&rsquo;obtenir une place &agrave; l&rsquo;h&ocirc;pital et non principalement pour&nbsp; des motifs m&eacute;dicaux ; et la mise en place de prises en charge relationnelles permet d&rsquo;obtenir le plus souvent le consentement du patient.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">3 &ndash; Eviter le plus possible les visites au tribunal chez le JLD sauf pour les patients qui le demandent ou qui seraient maintenus &laquo;&nbsp;arbitrairement&nbsp;&raquo; en HO par le pr&eacute;fet. Cette parodie de justice nous para&icirc;t&nbsp; d&eacute;sastreuse ( et c&rsquo;est aussi d&rsquo;ailleurs l&rsquo;avis des syndicats de magistrats).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">4 &ndash; Eviter le plus possible la mise en place de &laquo;&nbsp;programmes de soins ambulatoires sans consentement&nbsp;&raquo;, mesure qui nous para&icirc;t contraire &agrave; notre &eacute;thique et qui implique une supervision des soins par le pr&eacute;fet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">5 &ndash; Il s&rsquo;av&egrave;re que dans notre service il ne reste que 2 HO judiciaires &agrave; l&rsquo;heure actuelle (m&ecirc;me si on ne peut pas pr&eacute;juger de l&rsquo;avenir) alors que d&rsquo;autres services r&eacute;mois comportent&nbsp; 15 patients en soins sans consentement, <b>ceci alors que les soins libres devraient rester la r&egrave;gle et non l&rsquo;exception.&nbsp;<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">Nous estimons que chaque service m&egrave;ne la politique de soins qu&rsquo;il entend, et en porte la responsabilit&eacute;. Mais dans ce cas, il est important qu&rsquo;il l&rsquo;assume lui-m&ecirc;me, et donc que les m&eacute;decins de ces services fassent les certificats, et que les infirmiers assurent les accompagnements. Il nous parait aberrant de &laquo;&nbsp;mutualiser la contrainte&nbsp;&raquo;, alors que des mani&egrave;res diff&eacute;rentes de travailler sont possibles et rel&egrave;vent de la responsabilit&eacute; de chaque &eacute;quipe m&eacute;dicale et soignante.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">J&rsquo;insiste aussi sur le fait que les dispositions que nous prenons correspondent &agrave; des mots d&rsquo;ordre nationaux du groupe des 39, de l&rsquo;Union Syndicale de la Psychiatrie et de la plupart des organisations d&eacute;mocratiques.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">Il s&rsquo;agit de construire une r&eacute;sistance &agrave; cette loi -sans pour autant rentrer dans l&rsquo;ill&eacute;galit&eacute;-&nbsp; en engageant en m&ecirc;me temps la campagne pour son abrogation. &nbsp; &nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'; min-height: 15.0px\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><span style=\"letter-spacing: 0.0px\">&nbsp;<span class=\"Apple-tab-span\" style=\"white-space:pre\"> <\/span><strong>Dr Patrick CHEMLA<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 27.0px; font: 12.0px 'Lucida Grande'\"><strong>Pour l&rsquo;&eacute;quipe m&eacute;dicale du service 51zr4<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Centre de Jour Antonin Artaud &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Reims, le mercredi 10 ao&ucirc;t 2011 &nbsp;40, rue de Talleyrand &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 51100 REIMS&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; T&eacute;l.&nbsp;: 03.26.40.01.23&nbsp; Fax&nbsp;: 03.26.77.93.14&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Monsieur le Directeur&nbsp; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/?p=2151\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture de <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&gt;Lettre au directeur de l&#039;EPSM de la Marne du Dr P.Chelma<\/span>  <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2151","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-resistance"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2151","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2151"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2151\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2151"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2151"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2151"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}