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class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">De la part de Madame Dominique Amy, pr&eacute;sidente de la CIPPA<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><a href=\"http:\/\/collectimp.cluster011.ovh.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/CIPPA1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" align=\"right\" alt=\"\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-3606\" height=\"208\" src=\"http:\/\/collectimp.cluster011.ovh.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/CIPPA1.jpg\" title=\"CIPPA\" width=\"350\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \"><br \/>\n\t<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">Bonjour Madame,<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">Bien que co-&eacute;dit&eacute;es par Dunod, nous n&#39;avons jamais eu l&#39;occasion de nous rencontrer et je le regrette.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">En tant que pr&eacute;sidente de la CIPPA (Coordination Internationale de Psychoth&eacute;rapeutes Psychanalystes et membres associ&eacute;s s&#39;occupant de Personnes avec Autisme), je souhaite faire un commentaire &agrave; votre interview&nbsp; du 14 mai dernier dans M&eacute;diapart.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">Etant, comme un certain nombre de membres de la CIPPA, form&eacute;e aux approches &eacute;ducatives et aux &eacute;valuations cognitives, je ne peux que m&#39;associer &agrave; la plupart de vos assertions.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">Toutefois les r&eacute;actions virulentes d&#39;un nombre important de nos membres psychanalystes ou non, m&#39;am&egrave;ne &agrave; revenir aupr&egrave;s de vous sur ce que vous dites de la psychanalyse et qui, nous semble-t-il, rel&egrave;ve d&#39;une vraie m&eacute;connaissance de notre pratique.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">Comment pouvez-vous imaginer un seul instant que nous allongeons des enfants, des adolescents ou des adultes autistes sur un divan?&nbsp; Si tant est qu&#39;il y en ait un dans le bureau &#8211; ce qui est loin d&#39;&ecirc;tre toujours le cas ! &#8211; il est, comme tout le reste du mat&eacute;riel, &agrave; la disposition de la personne autiste comme un objet de mise en sc&egrave;ne d&#39;un &eacute;tat qu&#39;elle vit et que nous cherchons &agrave; comprendre et &agrave; l&#39;aider &agrave; comprendre elle m&ecirc;me.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">Vous le savez aussi bien que moi, les autistes vivent des &eacute;motions dont le sens leur &eacute;chappe. Lorsqu&#39;ils sont sans langage, c&#39;est bien par le corps qu&#39;ils nous montrent &agrave; la fois ce qu&#39;ils vivent et leur incompr&eacute;hension de ce v&eacute;cu. Comment donc imaginer qu&#39;un psychanalyste puisse allonger une personne autiste ( j&#39;en connais peu qui se plieraient &agrave; cet exercice ) et qu&#39;assis derri&egrave;re lui ou elle, il attende sagement qu&#39;elle&nbsp; se mette &agrave; parler?<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">Tout ceci me d&eacute;sole car si une personne aussi bien form&eacute;e que vous l&#39;&ecirc;tes (j&rsquo;ai lu votre livre avec le plus grand int&eacute;r&ecirc;t) imagine que la psychanalyse est ce que vous semblez penser qu&#39;elle est, on comprend mieux ce qu&#39;il en est des parents ou de certains professionnels non avertis.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">J&#39;esp&egrave;re que nous aurons l&#39;occasion d&#39;une rencontre et d&#39;une discussion approfondie sur tout cela et vous prie, en attendant, de croire, Madame, &agrave; mes sentiments cordiaux.<\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">Marie Dominique Amy<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;\nmso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color:#(color);\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; \"><span style=\"font-size: 16px; \">P.S. voici notre cite: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cippautisme.org\/\">www.cippautisme.org<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;\ncolor:#1049BC;mso-fareast-language:JA\"><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Madame Bernadette Rog&eacute;, &agrave; la suite de son interview dans M&eacute;diapart le 14 mai &nbsp; De la part de Madame Dominique Amy, pr&eacute;sidente de la CIPPA Bonjour Madame, Bien que co-&eacute;dit&eacute;es par Dunod, nous n&#39;avons jamais eu l&#39;occasion de nous rencontrer et je le regrette. En tant que pr&eacute;sidente de la CIPPA (Coordination Internationale &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/?p=3603\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture de <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&gt;Droit de r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 l&#039;interview de Madame Rog\u00e9 sur Mediapart<\/span>  <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18,22],"tags":[56,60,75,109,111,120,223,250,282,289],"class_list":["post-3603","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-analyses-et-pratiques-professionnelles","category-articles-et-communiques-de-presse","tag-autisme","tag-bernadette-roge","tag-cippa","tag-dominique-amy","tag-droit-de-reponse","tag-enfants","tag-mediapart","tag-parents-dautistes","tag-psychanalyse","tag-psychotherapie"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3603","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3603"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3603\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3603"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3603"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.collectifpsychiatrie.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3603"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}